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ruggedtoast
Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 32
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject: Your greed has ruined it for everyone. |
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The internet is awash with people complaining about their online dvd companies.
If you look at these complaints many of these people are expecting turnaround times that are unrealistic.
I have come across a lot of posts from individuals expecting to receive 3 top title dvds on, for instance monday, which they then either watch straight away; presumably because they have no job, social life or any other interests - or, copy to their pc and send straight back.
Those same people then whine bitterly if they dont receive 3 replacement dvds by wednesday. They do this because they expect to receive over 25 titles a month.
And how much do they expect to pay? Fifteen pounds.
With first class postage each way and distribution and handling costs how much money are the companies making out of you? To use an Americanism - you do the math.
My turnaround time with lovefilm has become slow so I asked around some other companies and I had an email from a manager of one new company who truthfully said the reason all companies are going this way is because of people abusing the system. Theyre trying to slow down peoples turnaround without visibly reneging on their unlimited dvd promise.
He said his company was going to implement a system to get reasonable users a fast turnaround but to slow down people blatantly abusing the system. Quite right. |
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Jiltz
Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 164 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Read my post here >
http://dvdtrials.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=201&start=30
I think a wait of a week for a turnaround is also "unrealistic"
Greed doesn't even come into it........when Customers are paying money for a service, then they have every right to expect their money's worth.
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Jaamy
Joined: 17 May 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Company advertises 'unlimited' for £15.
Customer signs up as it sounds a good deal.
Company fails to deliver it's promise.
Customer complains.
It's as simple as that.
| Quote: | My turnaround time with lovefilm has become slow so I asked around some other companies and I had an email from a manager of one new company who truthfully said the reason all companies are going this way is because of people abusing the system. Theyre trying to slow down peoples turnaround without visibly reneging on their unlimited dvd promise.
He said his company was going to implement a system to get reasonable users a fast turnaround but to slow down people blatantly abusing the system. Quite right. |
Yet these companies STILL continue to use the term 'unlimited' to attract NEW customers. Even though they tell you that they are struggling with the customers they do have. Customers that are doing nothing wrong except expecting the company to uphold the promise that attracted them in the first place!
It's the same for my ISP Tiscali. They continue to advertise and attract new customers even tho they simply do not have the bandwidth to cope with the customers they already have.
When i joined up with a few DVD rental companies a few months back the maximum number of discs at a time was generally 3. Most companies now advertise 5 at a time.
They simply cannot provide the service they advertise. They continue to advertise to attract new customers when they simply cannot cope with the ones they have.
They are interested in nothing but money. I'm sorry but it's the companies that are greedy, not the customers. |
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mrsockmonkey
Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 57
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 10:56 am Post subject: |
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to me unlimited is exactly that "unlimited" which means i'm entitled to as many dvds as possible for my money
so the companies offer unlimited service but when we take up that service we are abusing the system yeah right we are only getting what we are entitled to which is an unlimited service
so if i get dvds on a monday and send back the same day and the company receives back the next day i expect to have the next lot sent out that day as its "unlimited"
sounds like the new maddog has turned up(wonder what happened to him)
anyway something must be wrong when we are "abusing the system" just because we expect the service we were offered and pay for
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Louise
Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 16
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 11:25 am Post subject: |
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ruggedtoast:
I can see where your coming from, bnut at the other pointed out these companies advertise "unlimited rentals" but do not deliver.
Calling it abuse when people are high users is a very harsh. Do you also call it abuse when high income families draw child benefit? Was it abuse when people tried to claim their Hoover flights? These are all cases where people are asking for what is offered. Not trying to get around the rules and be dishonest. That is what I call abuse.
It does appear the DVD rental companies have got it wrong. In their business plan they presumable hoped for more low users and less high users. Surely now they have realise that the "unlimited offer" appeals more to high users. I'd say they have got it wrong and need to seriously rethink their business plans and offerings.
But at the moment, they are still offering "unlimited" rentals and fail to deliver in many cases. |
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ruggedtoast
Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 32
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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I couldnt agree more. I have no interest in 'unlimited' movie rentals. I have a regular full time 9 to 5 job, a social life and a bunch of other stuff to do besides. I have no need for a service thats going to supply me with doulbe figures worth of dvds every week. I cannot possibly watch them
Neither am I intersted in pirating them and sending them right back, which I maintain is what most high users do.
A capped limit of 12-15 dvds a month with a quick turnaround when i do send them back will do me fine thankyou.
I dont see any reason why I should continue to be penalised when i am a good customer just because these companies are * footing around trying to keep people who, rather like the fat gutlord who goes to the all you can eat buffet and sues the restaurant when hes eaten everything in sight, theyll never make any money from anyway. |
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Jiltz
Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 164 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Ho Ho......I love the imagery Ruggedtoast........
I'm still wiping the tears from my eyes.....
Unfortunately, you are still missing the point.
When a company makes an "unlimited offer" then it is up to them to fullfill the demand that they have set for themselves.....this is called "Supply and Demand".
Now if they can't supply the demand, then they shouldn't make the offer in the first place.
Those companies have been running long enough to know that they must cater for the hungriest of appetites.
Just take a look at any of the big dvd rental sites and most of them say the same thing.....Unlimited.....As Many as you can Watch.....Join Us Now.
So why pick on the gutlord, who has taken them up on their offer and wants to stuff his face......it is his legal right to do so, because he HAS PAID FOR IT.
He should feel no shame, as he clears his plate and goes back for second helpings, because IT IS HIS RIGHT.
You may smirk at Mr Gutlord, but he is entitled to take what he can, because it is the LAW......it's called the Trade Descriptions Act.
This reminds me of the time I was at the salad department in Asda and I was struggling to shut my lid on the £1.99 container, while a person standing next to me, threw a few small things into his and closed it easily, with plenty of space left over.
He probably looked at me and thought, "What a greedy pig", but I looked at him and thought, "What a mug.....imagine paying £1.99 for a tomato, a slice of cucumber and half an egg"
You see my point Ruggedtoast.....
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the kid
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 66
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| Jiltz wrote: | Read my post here >
http://dvdtrials.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=201&start=30
I think a wait of a week for a turnaround is also "unrealistic"
Greed doesn't even come into it........when Customers are paying money for a service, then they have every right to expect their money's worth.
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Well said
An all you can eat buffy is the same thing
Money changes everything - we are paying |
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poheZ
Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 6
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| ruggedtoast wrote: | I couldnt agree more. I have no interest in 'unlimited' movie rentals. I have a regular full time 9 to 5 job, a social life and a bunch of other stuff to do besides. I have no need for a service thats going to supply me with doulbe figures worth of dvds every week. I cannot possibly watch them
Neither am I intersted in pirating them and sending them right back, which I maintain is what most high users do.
A capped limit of 12-15 dvds a month with a quick turnaround when i do send them back will do me fine thankyou.
I dont see any reason why I should continue to be penalised when i am a good customer just because these companies are * footing around trying to keep people who, rather like the fat gutlord who goes to the all you can eat buffet and sues the restaurant when hes eaten everything in sight, theyll never make any money from anyway. |
Is this forum about how great your social life is, or about the quality of service from DVD rental companies. I'm glad you find the time to participate in this forum with your busy social life.
| Quote: | | A capped limit of 12-15 dvds a month with a quick turnaround when i do send them back will do me fine thankyou. |
Thats more than i get from lovefilm, and i'm on an unlimited package |
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bazwaldo
Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 108
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Ruggedtoast wrote:[/quote]
(A capped limit of 12-15 dvds a month with a quick turnaround when i do send them back will do me fine thankyou).
Seems like i'm on this capped limit but without the fast turnaround.I'm on a 4 disc supposed unlimited package.My discs are returned next day but still i've only managed to clock up that same piddling amount in a month.  |
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ruggedtoast
Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 32
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Good grief, read what you just wrote and then look at the point of my post. |
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Jiltz
Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 164 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| ruggedtoast wrote: | | Good grief, read what you just wrote and then look at the point of my post. |
I've just read that post and here is a quote...."I'm on a 4 disc supposed unlimited package"
This is someone who is paying for a 4 disc unlimited package, but only receiving the service that one would expect for one of the lighter packages.
This is a clear case of someone being RIPPED OFF.
Bazwaldo, could easily have paid £9.99 (instead of £19.99) and still got the same service.
Good grief Ruggedtoast.....can't you smell the coffee???
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ruggedtoast
Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 32
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| My point is its people like Bazwaldo receiving his 4 dvds and then sending them straight back again which have made ALL the dvd companies begin offering slow service to EVERYONE else. |
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Jiltz
Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 164 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ruggedtoast wrote: | | My point is its people like Bazwaldo receiving his 4 dvds and then sending them straight back again which have made ALL the dvd companies begin offering slow service to EVERYONE else. |
What you are doing Ruggedtoast, is blaming a fellow customer, because he may have returned the DVDs on the same day that they were received.
If this is the case then blame me as well......in fact blame everyone who has done this.
This in itself does not breach any Terms and Conditions, but to some extent, there may be some truth in what you are saying, because some companies, have certainly capped customer's accounts (as soon as they discover that the customer is a heavy user), while others (such as Lovefilm), have gome one step further and capped everyones account.
The finger of blame shouldn't be pointed at the customer......it should be pointed at the rental company, because they offered "Unlimited" DVDs, then decided to change their interpretation of it, when they realised that they couldn't cope with the demand.
I'm certain they will know, that many customers will watch and return the discs the same day, to create an opening for the next discs to be sent as quickly as possible.....after all, this is the service that they are offering to customers.
If this is a problem for a company like Lovefilm, then they should put an end to their breach of the Trade Description Act and do the legal thing, by removing the word "Unlimited" on their site for each of these packages >
http://www.lovefilm.com/howitworks.php
I rest my case.
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ruggedtoast
Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 32
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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"What you are doing Ruggedtoast, is blaming a fellow customer, because he may have returned the DVDs on the same day that they were received.
If this is the case then blame me as well......in fact blame everyone who has done this."
Thats exactly what I am doing. Blaming you all. Greedy! |
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